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The midterms are just two weeks away, The midterms are just two weeks away, and President Trump is using his power and President Trump is using his power and President Trump is using his power to intimidate the people who run our to intimidate the people who run our to intimidate the people who run our elections, putting the voting system elections, putting the voting system elections, putting the voting system under remarkable stress. under remarkable stress. under remarkable stress. The latest move came on Friday when the The latest move came on Friday when the The latest move came on Friday when the Justice Department threatened to Justice Department threatened to Justice Department threatened to prosecute California election officials prosecute California election officials prosecute California election officials if they knowingly count mail-in ballots if they knowingly count mail-in ballots if they knowingly count mail-in ballots from 20,000 people the Trump from 20,000 people the Trump from 20,000 people the Trump administration says are likely administration says are likely administration says are likely non-citizens. non-citizens. non-citizens. It's the latest in a sequence of actions It's the latest in a sequence of actions It's the latest in a sequence of actions that has bred an erosion of faith in the that has bred an erosion of faith in the that has bred an erosion of faith in the integrity of our elections. integrity of our elections. integrity of our elections. Our story focuses on how state and local Our story focuses on how state and local Our story focuses on how state and local election officials are being pressured election officials are being pressured election officials are being pressured in a way that is stoking that distrust. in a way that is stoking that distrust. in a way that is stoking that distrust. We start with what happened in Georgia We start with what happened in Georgia We start with what happened in Georgia this past January. this past January. this past January. >> This is a criminal search warrant. >> This is a criminal search warrant. >> This is a criminal search warrant. >> What you're seeing is extraordinary. >> What you're seeing is extraordinary. >> What you're seeing is extraordinary. >> This is an FBI scene. >> This is an FBI scene. >> This is an FBI scene. >> Armed federal agents seizing ballots >> Armed federal agents seizing ballots >> Armed federal agents seizing ballots from a local election facility. from a local election facility. from a local election facility. >> In my wildest dreams, I never imagined >> In my wildest dreams, I never imagined >> In my wildest dreams, I never imagined that we would be that we would be that we would be raided by the FBI of all things.

raided by the FBI of all things. raided by the FBI of all things. >> Fulton County Commissioner, Democrat >> Fulton County Commissioner, Democrat >> Fulton County Commissioner, Democrat Dana Barrett, got a text message that Dana Barrett, got a text message that Dana Barrett, got a text message that sent her racing to this warehouse near sent her racing to this warehouse near sent her racing to this warehouse near Atlanta. Were the FBI agents inside by Atlanta. Were the FBI agents inside by Atlanta. Were the FBI agents inside by the time you got here? the time you got here? the time you got here? >> They were. >> They were. >> They were. They had vests, they had guns, they had They had vests, they had guns, they had They had vests, they had guns, they had all of the the equipment on their belts all of the the equipment on their belts all of the the equipment on their belts as if they were raiding a drug house. as if they were raiding a drug house. as if they were raiding a drug house. >> Yeah, can we look at that, do you think? >> Yeah, can we look at that, do you think? >> Yeah, can we look at that, do you think? >> There were dozens of agents who gained >> There were dozens of agents who gained >> There were dozens of agents who gained entry to the warehouse with a criminal entry to the warehouse with a criminal entry to the warehouse with a criminal search warrant that allowed them to search warrant that allowed them to search warrant that allowed them to seize ballots and other election seize ballots and other election seize ballots and other election materials from the 2020 election. Is materials from the 2020 election. Is materials from the 2020 election. Is there any way that you could have said there any way that you could have said there any way that you could have said no? no? no? >> No. They had a valid warrant signed by a >> No. They had a valid warrant signed by a >> No. They had a valid warrant signed by a judge. We did not have a choice. judge. We did not have a choice. judge. We did not have a choice. >> The agents worked all day packing up >> The agents worked all day packing up >> The agents worked all day packing up more than 600 boxes of election records. more than 600 boxes of election records. more than 600 boxes of election records. After nightfall and Director of National After nightfall and Director of National After nightfall and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard arrived, Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard arrived, Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard arrived, the boxes were loaded onto trucks the boxes were loaded onto trucks the boxes were loaded onto trucks and disappeared.

and disappeared. and disappeared. >> Where are the ballots now? >> Where are the ballots now? >> Where are the ballots now? >> We have no idea. >> We have no idea. >> We have no idea. >> You don't know where they took them. >> You don't know where they took them. >> You don't know where they took them. >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Nope. >> Do you know what they were going for? >> Do you know what they were going for? >> Do you know what they were going for? >> Look, it was in my opinion political >> Look, it was in my opinion political >> Look, it was in my opinion political theater aimed at undermining the 2026 theater aimed at undermining the 2026 theater aimed at undermining the 2026 and 2028 elections. and 2028 elections. and 2028 elections. >> You think it was an intimidation for the >> You think it was an intimidation for the >> You think it was an intimidation for the next election. next election. next election. >> I think it was all part of this >> I think it was all part of this >> I think it was all part of this concerted effort that's happening concerted effort that's happening concerted effort that's happening nationwide to undermine faith in nationwide to undermine faith in nationwide to undermine faith in elections. elections. elections. >> We obtained this internal FBI email >> We obtained this internal FBI email >> We obtained this internal FBI email temporarily reassigning 260 analysts to temporarily reassigning 260 analysts to temporarily reassigning 260 analysts to work on a priority investigation into work on a priority investigation into work on a priority investigation into the Georgia materials. the Georgia materials. the Georgia materials. That was 3 months ago and nothing has That was 3 months ago and nothing has That was 3 months ago and nothing has come of it yet. come of it yet. come of it yet. There have been dozens of probes into There have been dozens of probes into There have been dozens of probes into the 2020 election in Georgia and none the 2020 election in Georgia and none the 2020 election in Georgia and none have moved the needle. have moved the needle. have moved the needle. >> You take a fraudulent claim, you >> You take a fraudulent claim, you >> You take a fraudulent claim, you investigate it at the state level, then investigate it at the state level, then investigate it at the state level, then the federal level refers to what the the federal level refers to what the the federal level refers to what the state did, and people just see all of state did, and people just see all of state did, and people just see all of these investigations and FBI raids and these investigations and FBI raids and these investigations and FBI raids and subpoenas, and they say, "Something must subpoenas, and they say, "Something must subpoenas, and they say, "Something must be wrong there. Why should I believe the be wrong there. Why should I believe the be wrong there. Why should I believe the results?"

results?" results?" >> The Trump administration has cast more >> The Trump administration has cast more >> The Trump administration has cast more doubt about the reliability of our doubt about the reliability of our doubt about the reliability of our elections elections elections by investigating voting machines and by investigating voting machines and by investigating voting machines and actual ballots, which the Justice actual ballots, which the Justice actual ballots, which the Justice Department has attempted in several Department has attempted in several Department has attempted in several states. states. states. >> I was a political science major at the >> I was a political science major at the >> I was a political science major at the >> The Lieutenant Governor of Utah, Deidre >> The Lieutenant Governor of Utah, Deidre >> The Lieutenant Governor of Utah, Deidre Henderson, told us it's a kind of Henderson, told us it's a kind of Henderson, told us it's a kind of interference she's never seen before. interference she's never seen before. interference she's never seen before. >> In the past two elections that I oversaw >> In the past two elections that I oversaw >> In the past two elections that I oversaw as Lieutenant Governor, the threats were as Lieutenant Governor, the threats were as Lieutenant Governor, the threats were all external, non-state actors, all external, non-state actors, all external, non-state actors, cybersecurity threats, and and other cybersecurity threats, and and other cybersecurity threats, and and other things. Um things. Um things. Um But now we also have threats coming from But now we also have threats coming from But now we also have threats coming from within our own government. within our own government. within our own government. >> Your federal government. >> Your federal government. >> Your federal government. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> That's right. >> There is a sample ballot like a >> There is a sample ballot like a >> There is a sample ballot like a >> Henderson is responsible for Utah's >> Henderson is responsible for Utah's >> Henderson is responsible for Utah's elections. elections. elections. >> Does this verify citizenship or do the >> Does this verify citizenship or do the >> Does this verify citizenship or do the clerks do that? clerks do that? clerks do that? >> Everything from voter registration to >> Everything from voter registration to >> Everything from voter registration to counting the ballots on election day. counting the ballots on election day. counting the ballots on election day. Keep in mind Henderson is a Republican Keep in mind Henderson is a Republican Keep in mind Henderson is a Republican in a deeply red state. President Trump in a deeply red state. President Trump in a deeply red state. President Trump won the last election here by more than won the last election here by more than won the last election here by more than 20 points.

20 points. 20 points. >> This is your office? >> This is your office? >> This is your office? >> where it happens. >> where it happens. >> where it happens. >> Oh, what >> Oh, what >> Oh, what >> Last year the Justice Department zoned >> Last year the Justice Department zoned >> Last year the Justice Department zoned in on Henderson and her counterparts in in on Henderson and her counterparts in in on Henderson and her counterparts in states across the country demanding states across the country demanding states across the country demanding their statewide voter registration list. their statewide voter registration list. their statewide voter registration list. Which includes voters confidential Which includes voters confidential Which includes voters confidential personal information. Henderson had personal information. Henderson had personal information. Henderson had never seen anything like it. She said, never seen anything like it. She said, never seen anything like it. She said, "No." "No." "No." >> They wanted things that we typically are >> They wanted things that we typically are >> They wanted things that we typically are required by law to keep private. Uh, required by law to keep private. Uh, required by law to keep private. Uh, social security numbers, full dates of social security numbers, full dates of social security numbers, full dates of birth, driver's license numbers. birth, driver's license numbers. birth, driver's license numbers. >> Why? Why do they want that? >> Why? Why do they want that? >> Why? Why do they want that? >> We just weren't given >> We just weren't given >> We just weren't given very good answers and we were concerned very good answers and we were concerned very good answers and we were concerned about what they would do with that data. about what they would do with that data. about what they would do with that data. >> Officials in 29 other states, Democrat >> Officials in 29 other states, Democrat >> Officials in 29 other states, Democrat and Republican, felt the same and so and Republican, felt the same and so and Republican, felt the same and so they also refused to comply. The Justice they also refused to comply. The Justice they also refused to comply. The Justice Department has sued all of them saying Department has sued all of them saying Department has sued all of them saying it needs access to voter rolls to help it needs access to voter rolls to help it needs access to voter rolls to help ensure that immigrants who are not ensure that immigrants who are not ensure that immigrants who are not entitled to vote don't. They think that entitled to vote don't. They think that entitled to vote don't. They think that you're allowing ineligible voters to go you're allowing ineligible voters to go you're allowing ineligible voters to go and vote and they feel it's a federal and vote and they feel it's a federal and vote and they feel it's a federal obligation to stop that.

obligation to stop that. obligation to stop that. Why is that wrong? Why is that wrong? Why is that wrong? >> Across the board, nobody I know wants >> Across the board, nobody I know wants >> Across the board, nobody I know wants anyone who isn't eligible to be able to anyone who isn't eligible to be able to anyone who isn't eligible to be able to vote. vote. vote. >> State audits have shown that non-citizen >> State audits have shown that non-citizen >> State audits have shown that non-citizen voting is extremely rare, though it does voting is extremely rare, though it does voting is extremely rare, though it does happen. happen. happen. In Utah, Henderson found only 52 who In Utah, Henderson found only 52 who In Utah, Henderson found only 52 who were questionable out of more than 2 were questionable out of more than 2 were questionable out of more than 2 million voters. We did a calculation million voters. We did a calculation million voters. We did a calculation that that's 2/1000 that that's 2/1000 that that's 2/1000 of 1%. of 1%. of 1%. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, has it ever been an issue in Utah? >> So, has it ever been an issue in Utah? >> So, has it ever been an issue in Utah? No. No. No. Henderson has been notified that if she Henderson has been notified that if she Henderson has been notified that if she knowingly allows any non-citizens to knowingly allows any non-citizens to knowingly allows any non-citizens to vote she could be prosecuted and even vote she could be prosecuted and even vote she could be prosecuted and even sent to prison. sent to prison. sent to prison. >> Election security is national security. >> Election security is national security. >> Election security is national security. >> In July, Secretary of Homeland Security >> In July, Secretary of Homeland Security >> In July, Secretary of Homeland Security Mark Wayne Mullins spelled it out. Mark Wayne Mullins spelled it out. Mark Wayne Mullins spelled it out. >> Those individuals can also be held >> Those individuals can also be held >> Those individuals can also be held accountable accountable accountable by fines, by penalties, and even by fines, by penalties, and even by fines, by penalties, and even depending on how far it goes prison depending on how far it goes prison depending on how far it goes prison time.

time. time. >> Election officials in California have >> Election officials in California have >> Election officials in California have been put on notice, too. been put on notice, too. been put on notice, too. The Justice Department has threatened to The Justice Department has threatened to The Justice Department has threatened to prosecute them for essentially the same prosecute them for essentially the same prosecute them for essentially the same crime. crime. crime. And President Trump put out a social And President Trump put out a social And President Trump put out a social media post Friday about California. They media post Friday about California. They media post Friday about California. They will all go to jail for a long period of will all go to jail for a long period of will all go to jail for a long period of time. You could go to prison. time. You could go to prison. time. You could go to prison. >> We're not going to prison. No. It's >> We're not going to prison. No. It's >> We're not going to prison. No. It's silly. silly. silly. >> You're absolutely sure? >> You're absolutely sure? >> You're absolutely sure? >> Well, >> Well, >> Well, >> she's right to say, "Well," the Justice >> she's right to say, "Well," the Justice >> she's right to say, "Well," the Justice Department told Henderson last month Department told Henderson last month Department told Henderson last month she's officially under investigation. she's officially under investigation. she's officially under investigation. You are toe-to-toe with the President of You are toe-to-toe with the President of You are toe-to-toe with the President of the United States. It's a big thing that the United States. It's a big thing that the United States. It's a big thing that you're doing. you're doing. you're doing. >> I'm just doing my job. >> I'm just doing my job. >> I'm just doing my job. >> Standing up to the federal government >> Standing up to the federal government >> Standing up to the federal government that's threatening you with jail time. that's threatening you with jail time. that's threatening you with jail time. It's bold at the very least. It's bold at the very least. It's bold at the very least. >> I have to >> I have to >> I have to I have to tell myself I have to tell myself I have to tell myself it doesn't matter what the consequences it doesn't matter what the consequences it doesn't matter what the consequences are if as long as I feel like I'm doing are if as long as I feel like I'm doing are if as long as I feel like I'm doing what's right.

what's right. what's right. I think this is an important thing for I think this is an important thing for I think this is an important thing for me to do holding these guardrails, me to do holding these guardrails, me to do holding these guardrails, holding the line. holding the line. holding the line. Someone has to. Someone has to. Someone has to. >> Other Republicans like Governor Mark >> Other Republicans like Governor Mark >> Other Republicans like Governor Mark Gordon of Wyoming also pushed back when Gordon of Wyoming also pushed back when Gordon of Wyoming also pushed back when election monitors from the Justice election monitors from the Justice election monitors from the Justice Department in August demanded access to Department in August demanded access to Department in August demanded access to his voting machines. his voting machines. his voting machines. >> I feel very strongly about >> I feel very strongly about >> I feel very strongly about federal government coming in and taking federal government coming in and taking federal government coming in and taking our guns. I don't like that and I don't our guns. I don't like that and I don't our guns. I don't like that and I don't like the federal government coming in like the federal government coming in like the federal government coming in and taking our votes either. and taking our votes either. and taking our votes either. >> The federal government should get >> The federal government should get >> The federal government should get involved. involved. involved. >> Things escalated when President Trump >> Things escalated when President Trump >> Things escalated when President Trump defied history and the Constitution with defied history and the Constitution with defied history and the Constitution with a shocking statement on a podcast. a shocking statement on a podcast. a shocking statement on a podcast. >> The Republicans should say, "We want to >> The Republicans should say, "We want to >> The Republicans should say, "We want to take over. We should take over the take over. We should take over the take over. We should take over the voting the voting in at least voting the voting in at least voting the voting in at least many 15 places. The Republicans ought to many 15 places. The Republicans ought to many 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting." nationalize the voting." nationalize the voting." >> In America, elections are local. They're >> In America, elections are local. They're >> In America, elections are local. They're run by towns and counties and states. run by towns and counties and states. run by towns and counties and states. It's all in Article 1 of the It's all in Article 1 of the It's all in Article 1 of the Constitution.

Constitution. Constitution. Congress makes laws regulating Congress makes laws regulating Congress makes laws regulating elections. elections. elections. >> This country is so sick because of the >> This country is so sick because of the >> This country is so sick because of the election the fake election. election the fake election. election the fake election. >> president doesn't have a role in running >> president doesn't have a role in running >> president doesn't have a role in running them. That hasn't stopped Mr. Trump from them. That hasn't stopped Mr. Trump from them. That hasn't stopped Mr. Trump from signing two executive orders trying to signing two executive orders trying to signing two executive orders trying to create new federal voting rules. create new federal voting rules. create new federal voting rules. >> And it's an honor to sign this one. >> And it's an honor to sign this one. >> And it's an honor to sign this one. To sign all of them but to sign this one To sign all of them but to sign this one To sign all of them but to sign this one is a great honor. is a great honor. is a great honor. >> [applause] >> [applause] >> [applause] >> Non-citizens cannot vote in federal >> Non-citizens cannot vote in federal >> Non-citizens cannot vote in federal elections. So, the question is simply elections. So, the question is simply elections. So, the question is simply how many of them there are. how many of them there are. how many of them there are. >> Harmeet Dhillon, the head of the Civil >> Harmeet Dhillon, the head of the Civil >> Harmeet Dhillon, the head of the Civil Rights Division of the Justice Rights Division of the Justice Rights Division of the Justice Department, has spearheaded the Department, has spearheaded the Department, has spearheaded the government's voter roll initiative. She government's voter roll initiative. She government's voter roll initiative. She spoke to us from California. There are spoke to us from California. There are spoke to us from California. There are people who feel that the point is people who feel that the point is people who feel that the point is to sow distrust about the whole election to sow distrust about the whole election to sow distrust about the whole election system. There were very few people who system. There were very few people who system. There were very few people who are non-citizens who end up voting, very are non-citizens who end up voting, very are non-citizens who end up voting, very very few. And so, therefore, very few. And so, therefore, very few. And so, therefore, what's the purpose? what's the purpose? what's the purpose? >> The point is actually the opposite of >> The point is actually the opposite of >> The point is actually the opposite of what you were saying. It's not to sow what you were saying. It's not to sow what you were saying. It's not to sow distrust. The distrust is there. And so, distrust. The distrust is there. And so, distrust. The distrust is there. And so, all of these kinds of crimes are being all of these kinds of crimes are being all of these kinds of crimes are being prosecuted now for the first time really prosecuted now for the first time really prosecuted now for the first time really in volume. And you'll even the Biden in volume. And you'll even the Biden in volume. And you'll even the Biden administration prosecuted 13 people for administration prosecuted 13 people for administration prosecuted 13 people for non-citizen voting.

non-citizen voting. non-citizen voting. >> 13 people. I mean, the numbers >> 13 people. I mean, the numbers >> 13 people. I mean, the numbers are tiny. are tiny. are tiny. >> So, Leslie, we've been in office for >> So, Leslie, we've been in office for >> So, Leslie, we've been in office for less than 2 years. We've had less than 2 years. We've had less than 2 years. We've had investigations ongoing for over a year. investigations ongoing for over a year. investigations ongoing for over a year. And it takes time. There are literally And it takes time. There are literally And it takes time. There are literally thousands of them out there that we are thousands of them out there that we are thousands of them out there that we are looking at. looking at. looking at. >> The pileup of investigations, charges of >> The pileup of investigations, charges of >> The pileup of investigations, charges of voting hanky-panky have caused voters to voting hanky-panky have caused voters to voting hanky-panky have caused voters to lose faith in our election system. lose faith in our election system. lose faith in our election system. >> They try to rig elections. >> They try to rig elections. >> They try to rig elections. >> Democrats have cast out on our >> Democrats have cast out on our >> Democrats have cast out on our elections, too. elections, too. elections, too. >> We will not let their scheme to rig the >> We will not let their scheme to rig the >> We will not let their scheme to rig the midterm election and beyond be midterm election and beyond be midterm election and beyond be successful. successful. successful. >> But, it's a question of degree. >> But, it's a question of degree. >> But, it's a question of degree. >> The 2020 election was rigged. >> The 2020 election was rigged. >> The 2020 election was rigged. >> In the 21 months of President Trump's >> In the 21 months of President Trump's >> In the 21 months of President Trump's second term second term second term >> to the election was rigged. >> to the election was rigged. >> to the election was rigged. >> he has said in so many words the vote >> he has said in so many words the vote >> he has said in so many words the vote can't be trusted more than 150 times. can't be trusted more than 150 times. can't be trusted more than 150 times. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. >> THE president is only turning up the >> THE president is only turning up the >> THE president is only turning up the volume. volume. volume. Listen to him at the Republican midterm Listen to him at the Republican midterm Listen to him at the Republican midterm convention last month asking his convention last month asking his convention last month asking his supporters to make a promise.

supporters to make a promise. supporters to make a promise. >> THAT I WILL GO OUT WITH MY FAMILY, MY >> THAT I WILL GO OUT WITH MY FAMILY, MY >> THAT I WILL GO OUT WITH MY FAMILY, MY FRIENDS. I'LL DO IT ANYWAY. I DON'T CARE FRIENDS. I'LL DO IT ANYWAY. I DON'T CARE FRIENDS. I'LL DO IT ANYWAY. I DON'T CARE IF I'M REGISTERED OR NOT. I'M GOING TO IF I'M REGISTERED OR NOT. I'M GOING TO IF I'M REGISTERED OR NOT. I'M GOING TO TRY AND CHEAT like hell like they do. TRY AND CHEAT like hell like they do. TRY AND CHEAT like hell like they do. >> One argument is that when the president >> One argument is that when the president >> One argument is that when the president of the United States keeps saying that of the United States keeps saying that of the United States keeps saying that the system's rigged, people lose the system's rigged, people lose the system's rigged, people lose confidence. You don't think it's rigged, confidence. You don't think it's rigged, confidence. You don't think it's rigged, do you? do you? do you? >> In terms of rigged, I definitely think >> In terms of rigged, I definitely think >> In terms of rigged, I definitely think that there were irregularities in prior that there were irregularities in prior that there were irregularities in prior elections, but I think people are more elections, but I think people are more elections, but I think people are more sensitive to it now. sensitive to it now. sensitive to it now. >> Is the administration >> Is the administration >> Is the administration planning to send ICE agents out to the planning to send ICE agents out to the planning to send ICE agents out to the polling places? polling places? polling places? >> There's no plan to do that. >> There's no plan to do that. >> There's no plan to do that. >> Dillon dismissed that concern and called >> Dillon dismissed that concern and called >> Dillon dismissed that concern and called the notion that President Trump might the notion that President Trump might the notion that President Trump might challenge the results of the midterms challenge the results of the midterms challenge the results of the midterms paranoia. paranoia. paranoia. >> So, would you consider a non-citizen >> So, would you consider a non-citizen >> So, would you consider a non-citizen voting an irregularity voting an irregularity voting an irregularity that would lead to a challenge of the that would lead to a challenge of the that would lead to a challenge of the vote? vote? vote? >> I think that would lead to that person's >> I think that would lead to that person's >> I think that would lead to that person's vote being challenged, but not the vote being challenged, but not the vote being challenged, but not the entire election. entire election. entire election. >> What I'm hearing you say >> What I'm hearing you say >> What I'm hearing you say is that you think it's very unlikely is that you think it's very unlikely is that you think it's very unlikely that a vote a state vote will be that a vote a state vote will be that a vote a state vote will be challenged, but people worry about that.

challenged, but people worry about that. challenged, but people worry about that. Can you rule it out? Can you rule it out? Can you rule it out? >> Well, I don't know what's going to >> Well, I don't know what's going to >> Well, I don't know what's going to happen, but I can tell you that absent happen, but I can tell you that absent happen, but I can tell you that absent some shocking contingency that is some shocking contingency that is some shocking contingency that is unexpected, unexpected, unexpected, uh there should be no uh there should be no uh there should be no interruption in the usual course of interruption in the usual course of interruption in the usual course of counting and certifying the results in counting and certifying the results in counting and certifying the results in the states. the states. the states. >> With just 16 days till the election, >> With just 16 days till the election, >> With just 16 days till the election, polls are showing that only half of polls are showing that only half of polls are showing that only half of Americans expect the midterms to be free Americans expect the midterms to be free Americans expect the midterms to be free and fair. and fair. and fair. >> We have swing states where elections are >> We have swing states where elections are >> We have swing states where elections are almost always really razor-thin close. almost always really razor-thin close. almost always really razor-thin close. What about Wisconsin? What about Wisconsin? What about Wisconsin? What about Georgia? Can they have a What about Georgia? Can they have a What about Georgia? Can they have a honest fair elections? honest fair elections? honest fair elections? >> They can have honest and fair elections, >> They can have honest and fair elections, >> They can have honest and fair elections, whether or not the losing candidates whether or not the losing candidates whether or not the losing candidates accept those results is the question. accept those results is the question. accept those results is the question. And we are seeing a trend of candidates And we are seeing a trend of candidates And we are seeing a trend of candidates who lose races now refusing to concede, who lose races now refusing to concede, who lose races now refusing to concede, saying it was rigged, saying it wasn't saying it was rigged, saying it wasn't saying it was rigged, saying it wasn't fair even when it isn't close. fair even when it isn't close. fair even when it isn't close. Candidates who lose can do so much good Candidates who lose can do so much good Candidates who lose can do so much good by graciously conceding. That That will by graciously conceding. That That will by graciously conceding. That That will instill confidence in the public.